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Are bad manners influenced by the way you grow up, and the people you interact with or are they in fact a biological inheritance from your parents? Firstly there are many degrees when associating with bad manners; swearing, rebelling, rudeness, disrespect or even smaller degrees like not saying you’re please and thankyou’s. Depending on a person’s background different families have certain identifications of bad manners. Growing up in a disadvantaged family with rough parents will stereotypically have a higher chance for children to grow up with bad manners, but is this a biological factor? Although some people argue that you can genetically inherit such traits would they have the knowledge without factors of nurture being displayed? An easily identified stereotype is students from private and state schools. The state school children appeal to be rougher and bad mannered when on public transport graffiti etc, where as private school children are used to strict regulations at school, they apply them in their outside life. So the way you have been nurtured defiantly places a role in how you apply your manners. But, if you grew up in a strict Christian family do you still think you would swear? Well some may argue, because at school in the playground other children may be bad mouthed so they rebel against their parents and use bad manners around there classmates, but when at home are very careful of their tongue. As babies and toddlers, children use the words they learn from the people around them, especially their parents. Parents also teach them the meaning and feelings of words, by how they portray them and their body language Parenting and Child Health - Health Topics - Swearing (Internet) (2008).
1. Is it agreed that a child who grows up in a strict family who enforces good manners, will still learn bad behaviors and manners, and may in fact use them more to rebel against their parents?
2. If nature had a responsibility in the learning of bad manners and swearing, how would it be learned if not heard from previous examples?
1. Is it agreed that a child who grows up in a strict family who enforces good manners, will still learn bad behaviours and manners, and may in fact use them more to rebel against their parents?
ReplyDeleteIt is not agreed. There are plenty of reasons to swear besides to rebel. In the hypothetical strict family, the hypothetical strict parents may agree that there must be certain ages at which certain levels of swearing become socially acceptable, short of attempting to stay ahead of the curve; this would not be rebelling against the parents, or against society.
2. If nature had a responsibility in the learning of bad manners and swearing, how would it be learned if not heard from previous examples?
Swear words themselves may not be learned, rather a disposition to use strong language may be learned through nature. This would, I suppose, be characterised through aggression and an outlet of aggression is swearing. Once the words are learned, obviously through nurture, the inherited aggression from the nature side will cause greater use of the words.
It is in my opinion that If a child grows up in a family where they are forced into following such a religion with all of the rules it may cause them to rebel or act in a certain way. This may be an indication for them to rebel against it, because there family is so strict to what they do. This then has a domino effect for them to be rude and have band manners because of what they are doing whilst they are rebelling. Stereotyping state school children and private is true because of how differently the environments are in.
ReplyDeleteFor example, state school rules are very different to Private schools, Private schools tend to be a lot stricter and most always have a uniform however. State schools are less strict and sometimes have uniforms, but the children attending such schools don’t take much pride to what they wear. This can also reflect back to the way the children act outside of campus because of how they are treated in the school environment.
Because private schools have a uniform and some state schools don’t usually, it is hard to depict if some kids are school children or not. Uniformed kids are obliged to do anything that would break the school rules because of what they are wearing however, if you are not wearing a uniform or just bits and pieces of one, it is easier to get away with things and treat the community with lack of respect.
Genevieve
1. Is it agreed that a child who grows up in a strict family who enforces good manners, will still learn bad behaviours and manners, and may in fact use them more to rebel against their parents?
ReplyDeleteI agree that a child can learn bad manners and behaviour but I am not convinced that they will always use them just to rebel against their parents. If they have grown up in a strict household where good manners and behaviours have been enforced for many years, it may feel unnatural to use bad manners and behaviours, especially around their parents. They could be fearful of punishment for using the bad manners and behaviour. A child may experience a rebellious stage in which they do not fear punishment. In this case, they would just be using bad manners and language as a rebellion against their parents.
2. If nature had a responsibility in the learning of bad manners and swearing, how would it be learned if not heard from previous examples?
If a young child heard adults swearing in everyday speech, they could believe it was ok to use those words and repeat them later. Being small and naive, children do not know the meaning of swear words, which makes it more likely that they will use them.
MADDY M 10N
It is a fact that we cannot protect children from every swear word but that we can only enforce good manners. Children will eventually learn these swear words or bad manners and it may not be from their parents but it could be from their school mates or other influences. Furthermore, in a family which enforces good manners and no swearing depending on the punishment will determine whether or not the children use bad manners and swearing to rebel.
ReplyDeleteIt would be extremely different to say that swearing and bad manners could be inherited through your parent’s genes. I personally could not think of any way in which bad manners and swearing could be inherited. However, the only way the environment could affect the learning of bad language would be whether your parents use bad language and manners frequently. As our parents are one of our major role models in life, we will observe their behavior and take on board majority of their mannerisms.
Maddie R 10P
Bad manners and swearing...
ReplyDeleteIt is very possible for children who grow up in a stricter family to develop bad manners and behaviours. Behaviours are learnt from others in an environment where they spent many hours of one day. When a child is young, they spend most of their time with their parents, and will most likely develop the same kinds of behaviours that their parents have. If the parents swear and don’t use their manners, it is most likely that the child will watch and learn from their parents, and believe that these actions are acceptable and will most likely replicate them. Swearing is everywhere in a society like today, and it is very difficult to stop a child of any age hearing these words. When a child turns into a teenager, they are pressured to be “cool” and in some places to be “cool”, swearing is very acceptable. Especially if a teen spends most of their time around these people, they will soon take on the same behaviours.
Another issue that could be brought into this discussion is the whole “first child=control freak/suck up and second child=rebellious.” This is believed to be the case as the first child spent its early years as an only child, and therefore feels above the other children. The second child spends its early years being bossed around by the first child and is usually in later years, compared to the first child. This can have dramatic affects on the middle child, and they may learn to retaliate to these actions with feelings of low self esteem and jealousy; which very well might lead to the child rebelling against the family and parents. Simple things such as ignoring the first born and the parents, and taking things from the first child are all small ways of rebelling. These small ways could lead to other things when the middle child is older, such as not completing work on time, not listening to parents instructions, and eventually just completely ignoring the family.
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Katie G =D
1. Is it agreed that a child who grows up in a strict family who enforces good manners, will still learn bad behaviors and manners, and may in fact use them more to rebel against their parents?
ReplyDeleteA child who has grown up in a strict family may have had restrictions and expectations on their behaviour such as good manners and no swearing. However, as this child grows up and interacts with the society such as with friends, the media, and other influential adults, the behaviours and morals can be influenced. The good manners learnt from the parents are exhibited in public. Therefore, bad influences from their friends or the media can also be demonstrated within the family environment, often against their parents.
2. If nature had a responsibility in the learning of bad manners and swearing, how would it be learned if not heard from previous examples?
Bad manners and swearing may not specifically be the result of nature although personalities that result in these behaviours could be inherited biologically. For example, impatience, bad temperedness, and aggressiveness may be inherited from the parents, which can possibly result in characteristics such as bad manners and swearing. However, I believe that such characteristics are a result of environmental factors as these behaviours are not innate and are generally learnt from role models.
Jess Lee 10B
While there may seem to be some hereditary link to bad manners, I still believe that swearing and manners is predominately learned by Nurture.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the statement in Question One, as there are many different reasons a person has to swear. While bad manners are nearly always unacceptable, it is justified that swearing is sometimes appropriate for the right reasons. People might swear if they think it is cool or socially desirable, as a way to let out anger, or as just some other words in their vocabulary.
These different reasons would be justified in different ways. For swearing to be socially desirable the person must have been influenced by the people around them. Peer pressure is usually quite a large factor in bad manners. Though a child may have been bought up with good manners, hanging around friends that use swearing all the time, the person would usually succumb to swearing at some point. As an anger release, swearing could be linked to hereditary. Bad tempers can be passed down through generations, whether through genes or just by upbringing.
In answer to the second question, I believe that while nature may have had an influence in bad manners, without experiences to trigger the development of bad manners, it would not occur. As manners is not a disease, or something that only occurs once, but rather something that can arise in any situation and has degrees of good or bad, it is not easily measured. Though from my experiences and from reading through these comments, I believe bad manners is mainly a case of Nurture.
Anna, 10M
For question one, it all comes down to how the enforcing of the good manners is done. If the parents of a child are very aggressively-based, and harass the child and really be nasty about having good manners, then the kid will probably desire to swear and have bad manners, just to rebel against something they hate. On the flipside, if the parents bring across having good manners nicely, in a chilled manner, the kid will probably just accept the good manners for what they are and not try to rebel, because good manners are brought across nicely, and not forced upon the child. If it’s done in a way that’s up to the child, and it’s their decision to make, then they will probably accept good manners and just use them.
ReplyDeleteThe only reason that bad manners could be a result of nature would be if they were somehow genetic. But all forms of speech and talking all come from watching and listening to other people, and this includes how you learn your manners, and whether or not you swear. That’s why you can never swear in front of little kid, they copy everything they see and do, it’s the whole ‘brain like a sponge’ thing. So I’d have to say that i’d struggle to see how nature plays a part in this.
Fraser 10N
I believe that bad manners and swearing are only due to nurture. A child learns through observation and studying the actions of the people around them. In an extremely strict and religious family who enforces good manners swearing is not part of their everyday life and therefore would not be a big part of the child’s life at home. However if at school these bad manners are observed it may make the individual more eager to use foul language. If the child does not have the same beliefs as their strict family they may be more prone to swear and may rebel to have a sense of being an individual.
ReplyDeleteI personally do not believe that swearing and bad manners are due to nature and I do not understand how this would be possible. However I do believe that the environments in which children are brought up in and the experiences they have been through has a large influence in deciding whether they will swear or not.
Shannon :)
I believe that a child who grows up in a not very strict family, surrounded by bad manners and swearing will be more likely to use this in later life. However, if someone grows up in a strict family who doesn’t allow bad manners and swearing then because they have learnt from an earlier age not to swear and to be polite they will grow up to be more polite teens. In some cases if the child does not like this kind of lifestyle they may also use this to rebel against their parents. I think it really depends on the child if they use bad manners and swearing in later life. I also think it depends on how strict the parents really are.
ReplyDeleteFor question two I can’t answer as I don’t think bad manners and swearing can be learnt from nature at all. Children do not learn words whilst they are inside their mothers stomachs. However, politeness may be part of nature but I am still strongly for the fact that bad manners and swearing is learnt from nature.
Amanda
1.Is it agreed that a child who grows up in a strict family who enforces good manners, will still learn bad behaviors and manners, and may in fact use them more to rebel against their parents?
ReplyDeleteI believe that the behaviours and manners in which a child enforces are influenced by not only their parents, but the community around them. For example, in an Indian community some people believe that it is bad manners to eat with cutlery whereas in most western communities it is bad manners to eat without cutlery.
2. If nature had a responsibility in the learning of bad manners and swearing, how would it be learned if not heard from previous examples?
If a young toddler heard people they look up to, for example their parents, swearing and using bad language, they would believe it is ok. Bad manners could be a result of biological factors, for example impatience, aggression and violence could be inherited from their parents, which could possible result in bad behaviours.
chloe madge 10J